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Give me reasons why we shouldnt vote for Obama.Forum Discussion for Give me reasons why we shouldnt vote for Obama. 12next ›last » Submitted by jennifer g. on Fri, 10/31/2008 - 23:17
You should vote for who you believe represents your views and values not for any other reason than that. And you should do your own research and not listen to any of us. Submitted by Amy S. on Wed, 10/29/2008 - 19:00
Just so all of you know, I've enjoyed reading all of your comments and being able to share my feelings on here about who we're supporting. However, regardless of wins, we're still all in this together as one. We're all neighbors on this great piece of land! Let's all stick together and pray for our next leader, regardless of who does win. Happy voting and God bless all! :) Submitted by Amy S. on Tue, 10/28/2008 - 21:01
RE-POSTING THIS INFO!**********Barack Obama and Joe Biden have consistently lied to Americans about John McCain's plan. Their claims have failed every fact check from CBS to the Washington Post. John McCain is not going to raise taxes on middle class families. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the only ones in this race that plan to raise taxes. Their recent attacks have become increasingly misleading. Read the fact sheet below or click here to learn the truth about the McCain-Palin Health Care Plan. THE FACTS Millions With Employer Coverage Will Do Better Under The McCain Plan: Millions of American families with employer sponsored coverage in all tax brackets with the same coverage as a "Members of Congress" will now come out ahead with additional funds going into a portable health savings account. Importantly, younger and healthier employees with the McCain health care tax credit will have a bigger incentive to stay with the employers. For example, a 25-year-old employee in the 25 percent tax bracket with a $2,500 tax credit could either purchase a policy in the individual market for the same amount or stay with his employer plan and receive a $5,000 policy with an additional $1,250 to invest in a portable health savings account. Why would people choose fewer benefits for more money? Barack Obama's Plan Will Harm Employer Coverage Barack Obama's Plan Continues The Push Toward Government-Run Healthcare Submitted by Amy S. on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 00:22
Pray for who you vote for America! Regardless of your religion....just pray! Submitted by Jodi C. on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 08:35
McCain Submitted by Amy S. on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 17:32
Re-posting article! ***** Why I Can't Vote For Obama First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him. Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Chr ist. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader. I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior. In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter. We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007. NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008) To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with. There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue. Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures: A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist g rabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby) God help him. There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law. Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane. There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years. Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he i s condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now? Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 'Go and make disciples of all nations.' This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him? Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ... 1. Commitment to the White Community Would you support a President who went to a church like that? Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside. This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discove red he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world. A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it始s a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote. Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: 'Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this? So what does all this mean for the nation? In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment. Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 'Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.' Then God says 1 Samuel 1:18 ' When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.' 19 But the people ref used to listen to Samuel. 'No!' they said. 'We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.' 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, 'Listen to them and give them a king.' Here is what we know for sure. God is not schizophrenic He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God. Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it. For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abort ion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy. I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends. Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation, 1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation. 2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation? Blessings sings, Huntley Brown Submitted by Jodi C. on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 23:04
Your argument was good for me, right up until you based it on the bible. I understand how you came to that decision...but I don't believe in the bible, and many others may believe it, yet don't treat it quite as the doctrine to live by that you do. Therefore, it is not used by me, and by many others, when making important decisions. But that's just a difference between us I suppose. Submitted by maureen B. on Mon, 10/20/2008 - 16:55
He's a liar, he's inexperienced, he's full of himself, he supports infantacide, his mentor is Jeremiah Wright, he's a close friend of Ayers and Dorhn, his economic plan will harm the US economy and create more fiscal irresponsibility with the Congressional Budget, he is in favor of unilateral disarament, he is willing to meet with hostile dictators, Tony Rezko, Eric Holder, and Jim Johnson are some more of his friends, he doesnt wear our flag, he doesnt put his hand on his heart for the pledge allegiance, Obama wants to end the war but he funded it in 2005, the surge is working but Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign, ACORN, Obama opposed punishment for gang members, Obama was the only senator to vote against keeping pedophiles in prison for their terms, Obama is pro-obortion, Obama is pro partial birth obortion, Obama is the most left wing in congress, Obama is against a secured border, Obama blames all the worlds problems on white people in his book, Obama backs a taliban supporter in Kenya (Obama's purported cousin and close friend, Raila Odinga, is a mass murderer who wants to "turn Nigeria into a Taliban-life Islamic Republic.") Obama lied about campaign finance, with Obamas agenda theres more welfare and less work, Obama worshipping is kinda creepy, we already have a savior we are looking for a president, Obama thinks Osama bin Laden has constitutional rights to a civilian court, I could go on but I think I got my point across.... Submitted by Levetta F. on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 12:05
Jodi C. are you sure it will only be 15-20k a year? I'm not! Also, I don't believe in inheritance tax BHO does that is why I would never vote for him or anyone else who does. I will be forced to sell stock in my family business(Timber Company) just to pay inheritance tax not fair I don't care what Dems say. Submitted by Amy S. on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 21:04
I am re-posting this information! We need to be in serious prayer about who to vote for! - HELLO EVERYONE: IMPORTANT INFORMATION!! SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERYIMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA SUNDAY NIGHT (OCT 12) AT 9:00 PMEASTERN ( 8 PM CENTRAL). HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE INTHE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS. HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS,SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUALADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIESTO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATINGWITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES! HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'SRADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLINGTO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THISPROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~ SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE ASAMERICAN'S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA!! THISIS SERIOUS,EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHOYOU ARE VOTING FOR, BUT IF YOU CAN, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY. MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEANHANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th. WE MUST NOT GIVEUP!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS!! Submitted by Amy S. on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 00:33
Just pronounce his name....Barack "Hussein" Obama. That's enough of a reason for me! Submitted by Jodi C. on Tue, 10/14/2008 - 00:19
Amy S. YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRITE!!!!! YOU SPEW GOD AND RELIGION AND THEN YOU ARE SOOOOOO PREJUDICE AND RACIST. WHAT A SHITTY GOD YOU WORSHIP IF THAT KIND OF THING IS OKAY. YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRY EVOLVING, JUST A LITTLE!!!!!!!!! Submitted by Amy S. on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 17:26
Jodi C. - I'm so sorry that you think that about OUR God! My family has been in prayer for a long time about the election. Both McCain and Obama have their issues. But, Obama has far more personal issues going on. His former church and thoughts of white people ( this country still has a good bit of white people in it! ), his relations with the Muslims, his thoughts and views of abortion, and how he is such a smooth-talker. Besides, he has no milatary experience. However, it's his personal relations that we feel discouraged about Osama, Obama, being in charge of our country. That's not a racial issue with us. It's all about where he stands on issues that concern God! Therefore, we support McCain/Palin. God comes first, then everything else comes behind! Submitted by Jodi C. on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 20:28
Perhaps it's not a racist issue with you, but apparently it's a prejudice issue with you - which is an extension of the same thing. When you are so frightened by a supposed (and untrue) relationship with Muslims, THAT IS prejudice. Even if he were Muslim, or associated with Muslims - What on earth would be wrong with that? Muslims are wonderful and peaceful people. What you SAY reflects prejudice and intolerance (and, I'm sorry, not to mention extreme ignorance). What of McCain's choice of pastor's whom he sought for endorsement? They preach violence, not always against whites, but against human beings. But it's violence nonetheless. Violence against ANYBODY because of their religious beliefs, race, views, etc. is disgusting and against God's message. McCain's choices of pastors is disgusting too. Submitted by Pam B. on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 22:24
Jodi, I don't care what color or race a person is ..he/she could be purple for all I care. But, I do care about a person's integrity and character. As they say, you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep. Obama is a fraud. I only hope the American people will not be brainwashed with all the media hype on him. Do some research... God BLESS America, now and always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Submitted by Jodi C. on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 23:45
Pam - If you're going to judge Obama's character by the "company" he keeps. Please see my lengthy entry highlighting for you the terrorists, murderers, and general criminals and thugs he hangs out with. Not to mention the Anti-Americans that Palin and her husband have associated with. Secondly, perhaps you don't care about race or religion in this election, and that is awesome. But Amy has made it perfectly clear that she does. She has made many statements that are clearly and without question based on prejudice or racism ("I'm afraid he'll make whites his minority," "I don't trust Muslims", etc.) Submitted by Amy S. on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 14:05
Jodi C.- The Muslims may be nice and wonderful. I'm glad that they are! Sorry, but I, along with many others, don't trust Muslims. Their Quaran/Koran (spelling?) that they worship under is different from the Holy Bible. My famly and I are not even a specific religion b/c our church in non-denominational and we worship with the Holy Bible. From what I remember, the Quaran book, or whatever that book is, is similar, but yet different and I don't know alot about it. I don't care to know alot about it! I was born and raised as American and taught under the Holy Bible! My family didn't raise me Muslim! Again, this shouldn't even be the issue here! This country was founded on Judeo Christian principles and we feel we owe it to GOD for blessing us with this country and to our ancestors to keep it that way - not a Muslim dominated country. Yet, if they want to come and work and make a life here, that's fine w/ me - WELCOME, WELCOME - as long as they're doing it legally and becoming tax-paying citizens! We just don't want them changing our freedom of religion and pushing their religion on those of us that believe in the Holy Bible! Enough w/ that! I really think you're just against McCain or just totally AGAINST anyone NOT voting for OBama, for some reason! ....OR, you are just against me putting anything up here b/c you don't like my beliefs in Christianity! I didn't start putting rude comments on what you were stating - YOU STARTED DOING IT TO MY COMMENTS AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHO I AM! BTW - Some Christians may be ok with Obama's morals and ways, but I'm one of those that DOES NOT! Others DO feel the same way I do. Why aren't you commenting on their statements on here? Again, get over this racism and prejudice stuff! America has come a long way since those days! You go vote for who you want and I'll do the same! Submitted by Jodi C. on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 21:17
Also, why don't you trust Muslims? Because of terrorists? THAT'S exactly what prejudice IS. When you have a fear of one, or some people, and then you project that fear onto others because they look like them, or for this example, share their religious affiliation. Not all Muslims are terrorists, and to assume they are, is prejudice. THAT IS prejudice. I wish I could help you understand what prejudice is. Submitted by Jodi C. on Sat, 10/25/2008 - 23:18
You suggest it's okay for you to push your religion onto others, by not allowing them power within the system if their beliefs contrast yours. Submitted by Hannah M. on Thu, 10/16/2008 - 18:31
That's his name, baby. Doesn't make anyone a racist for just sayin' his name. Typical come-back for for a democrap, though. Submitted by Jodi C. on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 14:18
NO,but using his middle name the way you are using it, DOES make you RACIST, and quite frankly, VILE. It's NOT hard to see your implication in the WAY you are using his middle name!! Unless, perhaps, you are equally as uneducated as Sarah Palin....then your ignorance makes sense. Oh, and I'm not a Democrat, I'm a registered Independent. Had McCain chosen differently, we would likely be voting for him. My husband and I fall into the top 5% who will take a big financial hit under an Obama presidency. But, we would rather lose 15-20K a year than let Sarah Palin get anywhere near the White House. That speaks volumes. Thus, we will vote for Obama, because we are not prejudice bigots ignorantly jumping onto the bandwagon of fear, promulgated by people who could best be described as dreadfully unevolved and ignorant. You should educate yourself on some history. You will see that jumping onto bandwagon's of fear, leads to scary places. Moreover, those who do, ultimately regret it in the end. Prejudice is the epitome of ignorance. Hatred is the antithesis of God's message. Submitted by Amy S. on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 18:54
Jodi C. - As I've mentioned on here already - Being racist and prejudice is SO 50 years ago! America has come way past that! ALL ethnic backgrounds have had it MADE in America for a while now living the "good life"! That's why illegals try to cross the border! Using or saying his name isn't racist! His name is what it is, which says alot about his HIM! I'm wondering....you stating that we are racist must make you RACIST, too! Get over the prejudice and racism issues! They're old! If you want to read about racism and prejudice issues, break out your history books! Just because we don't agree with what Barack Obama stands for doesn't make us racist or being prejudice! We're exercising our right and support, too! Submitted by Jodi C. on Sun, 10/26/2008 - 01:26
Amy - Racism isn't a fashion statement that goes out of style, people like you have managed to keep it very alive and running. Using his middle name the WAY you are using it, with the clear INTENT to rile up the emotion that is connected with that name, DOES make you PREJUDICE. It's NOT hard to see your implication in the WAY you are using his middle name. People know what you are meaning to imply by the way you use it. SAYING you are concerned that Obama will make whites his minority - THAT IS RACISM. Saying that you don't trust Muslims - that IS PREJUDICE AND BIGOTRY. I really don't understand why you can't get a grasp as to what racism and prejudice are. Submitted by Amy S. on Mon, 10/27/2008 - 01:43
How can you know God's message when you've stated that you don't believe in the Bible? The Bible is a love letter to us from God, regardless of how you feel about it. It's an awesome and powerful book. You seem to be very educated. I totally recommend you reading it and you will learn so much more. I know you'll even enjoy it! Before you assume I'm pushing the Bible on you, know that I'm not. I'm only recommending it ( hopefully in a christian way ) because you seem be educated and do alot of research. Take that as a compliment, Jodi C. :) I'm so sorry that you think I'm some un-educated individual....just by you reading my statements on here doesn't explain me, like yours doesn't completely explain you. I'm not gonna even try to convince you that I'm anything at all; this shouldn't be about you or me. On another note, I never said that racism was a fashion statement, or portrayed it to be that way in my statement. My meaning of it being " so long ago" is that America has come a long way since the Civil Rights Acts that took place years ago. I'm glad that our country has come a long way from those times. I'M proud that it has! There are still some rude idiots out there lingering about saying things about certain racial backgrounds and I don't agree with that composure - AT ALL! I agree with many that it doesn't get any one any where and it's not reflecting a christian heart. As far as the Muslims, in particular here, it also doesn't mean that I have to TRUST them. I will respect them, welcome them, I will even give them the shirt off of my back if they need it - but, I don't have to trust them. I don't trust anybody I don't know any way - regardless what they are! Does it say any where in stone that we should trust everyone that comes along? I trust the Lord above. BTW - I'm not considered a religion. My church is non-denominational that believes in the christian principles from the Holy Bible and has over 1500 members of all ethnic backgrounds and former denominations from all over! We have many from other countries and actively support missions every where and we welcome ALL who want to come in. Again, about Barack Obama......just because some of us don't trust Obama as the leader of our country doesn't mean we're automatically being racist against him. He has factors associated with him that we don't trust. What politician should we ever put all of our trust into? Also, I don't trust him not having any military experience with me having members of my family active in the military. Good for you for trusting him so much like you do, Jodi C.! That's YOUR choice! But, don't get frustrated because I don't trust him. I choose to trust in the Lord above and go from there on who I should cast my vote for. If you don't understand that, then you should take a step out of your box just a little bit and realize we're exercising our AMERICAN right, too. I am trying to step out of mine a little bit on many aspects and have really thought about what you've commented back to me. But, I will ALWAYS hold firm to what the Lord tries to teach us and his values. You know..... the man ( Obama ) does have impressive speeches. His educational background is phenominal. If I were to be in a personal conversation with him, I'd prob. catch myself enjoying it, like others are doing. But, I still don't trust him! Here are my main reasons.....I don't classify them as exactly prejudice, but more related to how I believe as an American.......Where he stands on abortion, those kids being forced to sing praises to him at their school ( which may not have been his doing, but that's not a good thing...), him being compared to the Messiah, his former church and their so-called feelings about "the white man", not feeling that he can be a leader of our country, no experience of the military and putting him in the role of commander-in-chief, and I WOULD NOT trust the man with a blank check from our government! Therefore, I can't support Barack Hussein Obama....regardless of his name, but mainly of his character. A character can be any color, race, religion.....many things. Obama has too many characteristics that I don't trust. And, yes....I do remember why the pilgrims came over here on the Mayflower and I'm VERY familiar with Wikipedia. Submitted by Levetta F. on Sat, 10/18/2008 - 00:39
Are you sure it will only be 15-20k a year? I'm not! Also, I don't believe in inheritance tax BOH does that is why I would never vote for him or anyone else who does. I will be forced to sell stock in my family business(Timber Company) just to pay inheritance tax not fair I don't care what Dems say. Submitted by Jodi C. on Sun, 10/19/2008 - 19:50
Yes, the tax bracket for above $250,000 returns to what it was in the 90's under Bill Clinton - back to 39.6%. For us that would be somewhere around a 20K loss, possibly a bit more if our income goes even higher this year as we anticipate. Go to electiontaxes.com and you can input your figures and see where you would land under both candidates tax plans. The difference for us between both candidates is that under Obama we would pay around 16K more than we would under the McCain tax plan, if our income stays the same as it is right now. Also, check out this CNN website about small businesses and taxes: http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/15/sma llbus... It clarifies A LOT!! Loading People... |